amd's athlon 64 should be comming out this year. it a desktop cpu for us here. i havent found any 64 bit complers yet. i know there are or there couldnt have been an win xp 64 bit version. If the price is reasonable im going to get a 64 bit cpu asap. tho i like its 64 bit gprs and 16 of them heh! however x87 fpu code is not supported in 64 bit apps :(((( so is 64 bit the future?
Posted on 2003-05-12 18:41:42 by Qages
I think gcc can compile for the new 64 bits cpu
Posted on 2003-05-12 18:47:59 by Hiroshimator

amd's athlon 64 should be comming out this year. it a desktop cpu for us here. i havent found any 64 bit complers yet. i know there are or there couldnt have been an win xp 64 bit version. If the price is reasonable im going to get a 64 bit cpu asap. tho i like its 64 bit gprs and 16 of them heh! however x87 fpu code is not supported in 64 bit apps :(((( so is 64 bit the future?

Hopefully, just like we got 32-bit via intel 386, not it's AMD and 64-bit. Think they begun selling the server CPU Opteron, it apears as a PIB (processor in a box) with dual Opteron costs between $347 (model 240) and 811 (model 242).
Perhaps one should get a server and use as hme computer (install linux and enjoy the trip) :alright:

I know there are some linux kernles that has been supportin the new CPU for som time now, I think SuSE is goind to support it (and the other distros too).

FPU, I think thats supported, or replaced by something else, but IIRC from the manual the x87 stack is there, so I think can be used in long mode (64-bit mode, like e(xtented)PE)
Posted on 2003-05-12 23:49:57 by scientica
Originally posted by scientica


it apears as a PIB (processor in a box) with dual Opteron costs between 7 (model 240) and 811 (model 242).



Really? That cheap? I've gotta get one for me. BTW, do you have a link for difference between 240 and 242? The price difference seems to suggest a big difference in CPU themselves.
Posted on 2003-05-13 00:11:09 by Starless
amd is comming out with a desktop version, the athlon 64. this year if i didnt say so already. amd will dominate the 64 bit computing world with its 32bit compatibility unlike the intels, and higher clock and preformance, a 4way amd optron will equal a 8 way with intels!
Posted on 2003-05-13 00:25:16 by Qages

Really? That cheap? I've gotta get one for me. BTW, do you have a link for difference between 240 and 242? The price difference seems to suggest a big difference in CPU themselves.

Here's a link to CPU prices in 1000-unit quantities: ("amd.com"->"Introduction; AMD Opteron? Processor"->Workstation->Pricing (right menu))
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8826_609,00.html

I'm not sure about the diferecne between 240 and 242 but I think it might be speed or cache size, I'll look around AMD's site, I wonder if I can find some number on the price for a complete Opteron system includeing SuSE.

When looking at one of teh resellers site (xicomputer.com) it apears as if Model 240 is at 1.40 GHz, model 242 @ 1.60 GHz and 244 @ 1.80 GHz, that's the only difference I see, all three ahve 1024 kB L2 Cache 2 and 2 way transport.
Posted on 2003-05-13 08:31:22 by scientica
As far as I recall, it is the 1.80 GHz model that costs $800+.
Posted on 2003-05-13 14:41:05 by V Coder
i think we should add a 64 bit section to the fourm!
Posted on 2003-05-13 16:27:42 by Qages
Yet,for a long period,win32asm will dominate.
Posted on 2003-05-14 03:48:19 by Vortex
Do I hear a new version of windows comming
or will M$ let let linux and BSD roll over them on this one?

the 64bit FPU will come out shortly after the 64bit CPU

I doubt that it will be long befor intel comes out with a clone of it

yes I think in 3 to 5 years all new computers will be 64bit
Posted on 2003-05-14 10:53:50 by rob.rice
Hasn't XP been available in a 64bit edition for a while? NT4 was available on alpha, iirc also 64bit... while the 64bit edition of XP might be for itanium, they have the infrastructure ready (and had it before linux), so it shouldn't take them too long if they decide to support this CPU.
Posted on 2003-05-14 10:56:32 by f0dder
win64asmcommunity.net :grin: - it's available. :grin:

oh

and someone should register win128c... win256c... win512c... ... also. :grin:
Posted on 2003-05-14 11:14:28 by arkane
I may be wrong but I doubt there will ever be a 256bit CPU
in small computers (I don't think even mainframes have 256bit CPUs)
Posted on 2003-05-14 11:28:21 by rob.rice
win2^32community.net

win2^Xcommunity.net ... much better. :)



with X, sounds like pr0n... :tongue:

win2^Ncommunity.net ... much better. :grin:
Posted on 2003-05-14 11:31:23 by arkane

I may be wrong but I doubt there will ever be a 256bit CPU
in small computers (I don't think even mainframes have 256bit CPUs)


Ya and Bill Gates said that 1Mb is all computer should ever need, at one point in the past...
Posted on 2003-05-14 16:49:23 by NaN

I may be wrong but I doubt there will ever be a 256bit CPU
in small computers (I don't think even mainframes have 256bit CPUs)
What about SSE4 in the Pentium 6 at 7.4Ghz - it's advanced hyperthreading technology enables windows to think it's running on a cluster of over 1024 processors, and the optical memory channel allows for 95TB/s bandwidth?
Posted on 2003-05-14 18:45:21 by bitRAKE
come to think of it there MAY be no need for a
FPU when a dbfloat can fit in one word
Posted on 2003-05-15 10:17:55 by rob.rice

1Mb

Wasn't it 640 kB?:)

I wonder when we'll aproach (and break) the theoretical maximum computer speed, less than 15year, 8 months, 15days and 3.9 hours is my guess :stupid:

(btw, first post from linux today, just installed it on my new hdd)
Posted on 2003-05-15 10:37:33 by scientica