I heard that it's not too much.


I read somewhere that programing VB databease is rather more profitbale job.


Is it true ??
Posted on 2003-06-10 10:49:20 by AceEmbler
Most likely I heard the same thing that game programmers dont make much income as compared to other programmers.
Posted on 2003-06-10 15:41:39 by x86asm
This sux becouse i was going to learn this stuff a lot.
Posted on 2003-06-10 16:05:39 by AceEmbler
That's weird if it's true.
The game-industry collects more money nowadays than the movie-industry does.

I read a thread in gamedev.net forum about the pay game-programmer got, one year ago, and the people with that job
in USA replied they got around 4-5000$ / month ( if I recall correctly )

But I don't have an idea what a VB-programmer stuck on data-bases gets for pay, so for comparison, how much they get?

( I don't know a single professional programmer in real life, only hobby-coders, this is interesting to me!! :) )
Posted on 2003-06-10 17:30:23 by david
Databases are very boring, but well-paying jobs.
Posted on 2003-06-10 19:27:23 by comrade
My previous experience and some recent work...
An old company I worked for sold a 100 hour access database for 20K
And A recent one in VB I made is worth (time-wise) 35K, Although I did
it for a company that had been 'cheated' by another, so almost did it for free.
I know I charge around $75 an hour (dollars US) for custom database work.

Med to Large companies won't even flinch at the bills.
Most of the databases becomes so intergral to the business that
they cannot function without it.

I know its goofy since the programing can't be any eaiser.
You can even charge a 1-2k fee to evaluate their current data
setup for possible porting and such.

That is the only reason I have VB information in my head :)

For instance a company United Parcel Service main software
Worldship(tm) is written in VB. Their entire new biz shipping is
tied around it. I wonder what the coders salaries look like.

I have no idea what a VB database coder gets when he is employed
by a 'business solutions' company.

Edit:
Absolutely Komrade!
RobotBob
Posted on 2003-06-10 19:40:44 by RobotBob

I know I charge around an hour (dollars US) for custom database work.


For that pay, I will do anything...I mean _anything_. :grin:
Posted on 2003-06-10 19:49:38 by david
Downside.

Like komrade said, boring and I mean boooring.
Luckily after serveral database writes you'll have enough code to reuse
to minimize the boring parts. I absoultey hate making guis.

And then there is the testing, and rewrite and testing and code change and testing...
"can you add a button here that..."

And too much VB will make you dizzy lol.

Beware about saying _anything_ ,You may find yourself in a dress ,dancing on a conference table :eek:
j/k I think?

I agree though, pay scales never reflect the 'real' work someone does.
it seems the easier the job, more pay.

Even some network admins, spend 5 hours a day improving their card game lol.

RobotBob
Posted on 2003-06-10 20:04:21 by RobotBob

Beware about saying _anything_ ,You may find yourself in a dress ,dancing on a conference table
j/k I think?


I work in a factory as a real live robot for 9$/hour....I would change that to coding databases in vb with that pay any day.
Francly, dancing in a dress on a conference table would be great too, and even easier money :grin:
Posted on 2003-06-10 20:30:01 by david
I've had many careers (shoe factory for < $9 ow) and actually -contract type work sucks-.
You are always out of work. I really need someone getting work for me while I
work on the current job. So never being sure about whether your going to to broke for a month or so
is bad. Some clients you can convince to pay some in advance, if not you'd better get coding if you want to eat lol.
As a result, my credit sucks.

For myself I lack good business sense and I am too willing to work for free.
('comp' ing too many things)

So I am looking for a company, with a steady salary and dental :)
Although I am a whore and will code for food at any moment lol.

Luckily the city I live in is very good to nerds. Its the tech manual capital of the usa
i've been told. More tech manuals are printed here than any other city (not sure if
its true but its the propoganda they say heh)

RobotBob
Posted on 2003-06-10 22:08:21 by RobotBob
HI there guys - been ages since my last post.

I used to be a DB developer - drove me nuts after a while but the pay was really good!

I now write portions of games etc for a company - the pay is half that for the DB work, but much more fun.
from the looks of it the bosses in the games company (accountants MBAs etc) make all the money and pay the programmers a little (coz "its an honour to work there").

i beleive the F1 racing teams are also poor IT payers, but I dont know this for sure - bet its a fun job though!

just my 2 cents worth...
Posted on 2003-06-11 03:51:00 by Terab
A lot of ppl dont want to make DB so it's well payed. It's like working in the morgue. Especialy when u have to glue some body after accident.:tongue:
Posted on 2003-06-11 06:58:37 by AceEmbler