<link removed on request>


If someone could pay them a visit that would be great, also check out the main domain... says enough for me :mad:



Domain ID:D91129396-LROR
Domain Name:PUELLULA.ORG
Created On:11-Oct-2002 17:33:28 UTC
Last Updated On:13-Oct-2002 15:11:50 UTC
Expiration Date:11-Oct-2004 17:33:28 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:11-C
Registrant Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
Registrant Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
Registrant Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
Registrant City:N/A
Registrant Postal Code:N/A
Registrant Country:CA
Registrant Email:not@available.org
Admin ID:11-C
Admin Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
Admin Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
Admin Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
Admin City:N/A
Admin Postal Code:N/A
Admin Country:CA
Admin Email:not@available.org
Billing ID:11-C
Billing Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
Billing Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
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Tech ID:11-C
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Tech Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
Tech Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
Tech City:N/A
Tech Postal Code:N/A
Tech Country:CA
Tech Email:not@available.org
Name Server:NS2.EPIFORA.COM
Name Server:NS1.EPIFORA.COM



Found referral to whois.opensrs.net.

Registrant:
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342 Lawn Street
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Ramsdale, NH 03578
US

Domain name: PUELLULA.ORG

Administrative Contact:
Haze, Charlotte http://www.asmcommunity.net/board/cryptmail.php?tauntspiders=in.your.face@nomail.for.you&id=e635377a44fc94e8d43f670c0c81ee3f
342 Lawn Street
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Ramsdale, NH 03578
US
603-813-2580
Technical Contact:
Haze, Charlotte http://www.asmcommunity.net/board/cryptmail.php?tauntspiders=in.your.face@nomail.for.you&id=e635377a44fc94e8d43f670c0c81ee3f
342 Lawn Street
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Ramsdale, NH 03578
US
603-813-2580


Registration Service Provider:
First Alpina Technologies, Inc., Domains by e-gold or CC for 15 EUR!,http://www.asmcommunity.net/board/cryptmail.php?tauntspiders=in.your.face@nomail.for.you&id=48b385c9a36e15cd2a8ce5ac6ef7f5d2
http://www.alpina1.net
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 13-Oct-2002.
Record expires on 11-Oct-2004.
Record Created on 11-Oct-2002.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.EPIFORA.COM
NS2.EPIFORA.COM




If any american reader can do something to shut them down that would be nice.
Posted on 2003-08-24 07:55:45 by Hiroshimator
You would have to pass the link and all the info you have to the local authorities in New Hampshire, and maybe the FBI (I think they have a cyber task force for this stuff) Maybe we have a member in New Hampshire?
Posted on 2003-08-24 10:13:08 by Gunner

We do not believe that every child will be interested in having a romantic relationship with an adult. We do, however, belive that some will. By romantic relationship, we do not necessarily mean penetrative sex. We advocate age-appropriate romantic activity between consenting persons.


That would be NONE!!!

If someone can get this to slashdot, I dont think the page will last long.
Posted on 2003-08-24 10:20:19 by ThoughtCriminal
WHAT DONATE MONEY TO PEDOPHILES?!?! MAn what a bunch of (x86asm you should learn to watch your mouth!)

-Last Edited by Hiroshimator

:D
Posted on 2003-08-24 10:56:22 by x86asm
Where is a DOS attack when you need one? :grin:
Posted on 2003-08-24 11:28:09 by bitRAKE
I have forwarded the address to the RCMP cyber crimes division, they will decide the proper route to take. The dissemination of this material is a crime punishable by prison in Canada. If you are Canadian be sure to clear your browser history, or better yet don't visit the page as your IP may be logged. These sites are occasionally raided and the ip's traced to their owners, the person is then put on a deviants list, as recently was reported in England with Pete Townsend.

Hiro - Take down this link, in Canada and the US it is not a problem however there are countries that will log your access and can use the visit as grounds for arresting you and seizing your computer equipment.
Posted on 2003-08-24 12:00:25 by donkey

I have forwarded the address to the RCMP cyber crimes division, they will decide the proper route to take. The dissemination of this material is a crime punishable by prison in Canada. If you are Canadian be sure to clear your browser history, or better yet don't visit the page as your IP may be logged. These sites are occasionally raided and the ip's traced to their owners, the person is then put on a deviants list, as recently was reported in England with Pete Townsend.

Hiro - Take down this link, in Canada and the US it is not a problem however there are countries that will log your access and can use the visit as grounds for arresting you and seizing your computer equipment.


crap I visited the site.
Posted on 2003-08-24 12:06:07 by x86asm
x86asm,

The domain has CA as it's country of origin, I am assuming that that means Canada. Go to the RCMP web site and send them an email, be sure to include how you found the site, your real name and the URL of the site. All emails to the RCMP are logged and will provide them with a reference including your name as a reporter of the crime not a participant. At the worst it will help push them into doing something about getting rid of this crap and putting those responsible behind bars, it is a crime here and should be one everywhere.

For the most part just one visit is not a problem but remember the recent case in Vancouver where a man is now sitting in jail for 3 years (rightfully so) because they traced his IP back from a pedophile site. I used an anonymous IP when I looked at the page, Hiro should have warned about the content, it can be dangerous just to view it.

BTW I agree 100% that these deviants should be locked away forever, or better still put out of other people's misery. But you should take precautions not to be lumped into the same group as these pariahs.
Posted on 2003-08-24 12:41:47 by donkey
It took less than a second to close that window displaying the target of the link, hiro I think you should add a warning about the content or better (as Donkey says) remove the link - to limit/restrict futher access to that terrible site (even thought I only read the caption I can guess the content - and judging from the posts my guess unfortainly apears to be correct).
Posted on 2003-08-24 12:44:30 by scientica
I have no knowledge of such countries hence I did not warn. Still I think these kind of sites breach the extended right of freedom of speech.
It was not porn but I think that when trying to justify it by portraying it as an 'orientation' one should be taken into close scrutiny at the very least for it is still many, many bridges too far hence not allowable. Call me puritanical if you will, I don't care, these are the kind of witches I'd still burn at the stake on the spot.


Paedofilia is a disease of the worst kind.
Posted on 2003-08-24 14:28:27 by Hiroshimator

Still I think these kind of sites breach the extended right of freedom of speech.

I think so too, I see that you have remove the link -- let's only hope that the authoryties are the last to see the site, before they bring down it and it's author.

I don't care, these are the kind of witches I'd still burn at the stake on the spot.

To bad the medival is over... :/ (They knew how to deal with scum back then)
Posted on 2003-08-24 14:35:03 by scientica

x86asm,

The domain has CA as it's country of origin, I am assuming that that means Canada. Go to the RCMP web site and send them an email, be sure to include how you found the site, your real name and the URL of the site. All emails to the RCMP are logged and will provide them with a reference including your name as a reporter of the crime not a participant. At the worst it will help push them into doing something about getting rid of this crap and putting those responsible behind bars, it is a crime here and should be one everywhere.

For the most part just one visit is not a problem but remember the recent case in Vancouver where a man is now sitting in jail for 3 years (rightfully so) because they traced his IP back from a pedophile site. I used an anonymous IP when I looked at the page, Hiro should have warned about the content, it can be dangerous just to view it.

BTW I agree 100% that these deviants should be locked away forever, or better still put out of other people's misery. But you should take precautions not to be lumped into the same group as these pariahs.


How would I report?
Posted on 2003-08-24 14:37:57 by x86asm
I got this link via various normal newsmedia!
I was shocked to hear of this and that there are so many of such sites that try to bring it into society as a normal tolerated 'activity'

for those interested in the site and the newscoverage search for "The Human Face of Pedophilia" in your browser

please to those living in the corresponding american states, contact your governor, police, whatever organisation deals with this, pedophilia should not ever be up for discussion, not now, not never, it's a disease not an 'orientation'
Posted on 2003-08-24 14:39:25 by Hiroshimator



How would I report?

I'm not sure, my cousin is a detective in the RCMP, I contacted him directly. You should have a "contact us" link on the website somewhere.
Posted on 2003-08-24 14:46:56 by donkey
Ok, i am a bit late. As u have removed the link can u atleast tell what was the site about and what was so disgusting about it?
I cant seem to understand this thread?
Posted on 2003-08-24 16:10:57 by clippy
it's a site trying to rationalize pedophilia by stating themselves to be just people with a sexual 'orientation' that differs from the majority of the population like homosexuality.

Trying to rationalize this is sick. It's a disease not an orientation, children can not make the rational choice of entering in a relationship, everything of such nature involving children is childabuse and rape regardless of what the child in question may say. (children are too easy to manipulate/threaten/....)


Someone who says "I'm a pedophile, please, I need help.. can someone (government/society/friends/shrink) help me?!?" has the right mindset where someone that says "I'm a pedophile, it's ok, it's just a sexual orientation, like yours but then towards defenseless children. You should accept me and my choices" is sick beyond redemption or help/treatment IMO.

It's not an orientation, it's a disease.
Posted on 2003-08-24 16:32:54 by Hiroshimator
Some ppl might still be a child at 36 or even at 79 years old...
while i know some girls that at 12-14 yrs have had all the guys in some full blocks of flats ... or streets by their own will not by needs of any kind...

So rather orientate on discovering why such sick things happen and not on killing the ones that do it...

we have been killing and burning them for 1000 of years and still nothing has happened or improved

I guess it is the guilt of our stupid sexual education ... or actually lack of such education

besides i guess in india they used to marry them kids by 8 (eight) years old... i hope they do not practice this anymore... i hope many things
Posted on 2003-08-24 16:53:44 by BogdanOntanu

please to those living in the corresponding american states, contact your governor, police, whatever organisation deals with this, pedophilia should not ever be up for discussion, not now, not never, it's a disease not an 'orientation'
Done: http://www.fbi.gov/

(Top left corner to submit a tip!)
Posted on 2003-08-24 20:35:59 by bitRAKE
Update:

I talked to the RCMP today and the webpage is believed to be based in Canada, the Child Pornography division of the cyber crimes unit is launching an investigation into the page and it's owner.
Posted on 2003-08-25 13:51:51 by donkey
thx donkey :)
Posted on 2003-08-25 14:23:56 by Hiroshimator