which one is better? or faster?
i'm lame and work on VC and alittle ASM but some my Best friend tell me work on CBulider .
do u advice me?
i'm lame and work on VC and alittle ASM but some my Best friend tell me work on CBulider .
do u advice me?
CBuilder is more RAD than visual c++. If you want to design your programs by dragging controls onto a form them you'd probably like C++ Builder better.
In my opinion, for or a Masm user,the best choice is M$ Visual C++ It integrates %100 with
Masm. Naturally, one might consider using other C/C++ compilers fitting his needs.
Masm. Naturally, one might consider using other C/C++ compilers fitting his needs.
i'm lame but i love Power and never waste my time with RAD Language for just some hours .
i wanna more Power and have a pretty feuture and i think that M$ is better than Borland .
i wanna more Power and have a pretty feuture and i think that M$ is better than Borland .
C++ builder generates pretty bad code.
MS VC++ or the intel C++ compiler are the best - intel doesn't come with an IDE though.
If you want rad, f*ck borland c++ builder and go Delphi or VB instead.
Vortex, what's with the M$ shit?
MS VC++ or the intel C++ compiler are the best - intel doesn't come with an IDE though.
If you want rad, f*ck borland c++ builder and go Delphi or VB instead.
Vortex, what's with the M$ shit?
I find it a pity that intel C compiler requires vc++ to run. yikes. Need to waste so much money just for it.
Another alternative, a synthesis of C and asm,Sphinx C-- is also an interesting language.
http://sheker.chat.ru/index_e.htm
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roticv, it didn't require vc++ to run when I checked it last. And vc++ definitely isn't a waste of money ;)
Vortex, does sphinx c-- have a hardcore code optimizer?
Vortex, does sphinx c-- have a hardcore code optimizer?
fodder,
I was testing out Intel compiler 8. Ouch, the compiler complained that there is no vc installed. :sweat:
I was testing out Intel compiler 8. Ouch, the compiler complained that there is no vc installed. :sweat:
Hi f0dder,
Sphinx C-- offers some optimization opportunities;but ofcourse M$ VC++ has the best optimization capabilities.
Sphinx C-- offers some optimization opportunities;but ofcourse M$ VC++ has the best optimization capabilities.
roticv, ouch? :s - are you completely sure about this? Not just the IDE integration that is complaining? I think it's v7 or something like that I played around with... been a while though. Oh well, should probably still be possible to rip icc8 and have it work without MSVC, but whether their license allows this is another question I guess...
Something like that... Hehe icc8 lite? :grin:
which one is better? or faster?
i'm lame and work on VC and alittle ASM but some my Best friend tell me work on CBulider .
do u advice me?
Compilation with MS Visual C++ is faster than Borland.:alright:
It's faster, too? Nice since it generates a lot better code :)
Yep, really, really faster.
Here at work I use bassically C\C++ and I try to develop code who's compatible with both VC++ and Borland Builder.
The code is always compiled faster with VC++.
Regards,
Mariano.
Here at work I use bassically C\C++ and I try to develop code who's compatible with both VC++ and Borland Builder.
The code is always compiled faster with VC++.
Regards,
Mariano.
I find it a pity that intel C compiler requires vc++ to run. yikes. Need to waste so much money just for it.
it has command line ...
it has vc integration becuz they didn't wanted to write IDE :D
I purchased C++Builder a while back and I liked it at first. It was nice having a GUI (Delphi style) but in all, I find it slow and buggy. Pricing is a nightmare and I don't want to keep dumping money into it.
I find Intel C, Visual C++, and Metrowerks Codewarrior to be the best. (Yes, better than GCC). Codewarrior actually isn't bad at all but there are so many features I take for granted in the Visual Studio IDE (plus I get it in my Universal Subscription) that I don't bother with the others. Metrowerks was a good compiler and has good acedemic value to it (most a stripped down version compared to Visual C++ but doesn't add the MS specific stuff). Has a crappy disassembler though (doesn't even contain a listing).
Thanks,
Shawn
I find Intel C, Visual C++, and Metrowerks Codewarrior to be the best. (Yes, better than GCC). Codewarrior actually isn't bad at all but there are so many features I take for granted in the Visual Studio IDE (plus I get it in my Universal Subscription) that I don't bother with the others. Metrowerks was a good compiler and has good acedemic value to it (most a stripped down version compared to Visual C++ but doesn't add the MS specific stuff). Has a crappy disassembler though (doesn't even contain a listing).
Thanks,
Shawn
Well, nowadays I'm developing an application at work wich uses Borland Builder (including VCL), I want to kill myself.
705KB, including all the libraries, and what it does? Nothing, a couple of stupid resizes...
Borland Builder is to C\C++ what Visual Basic is to Basic.
I could do this application in Assembler, it will take a couple of days more but it will be at least 10 times smaller and 10 times faster.
VCL is worse than MFC.
705KB, including all the libraries, and what it does? Nothing, a couple of stupid resizes...
Borland Builder is to C\C++ what Visual Basic is to Basic.
I could do this application in Assembler, it will take a couple of days more but it will be at least 10 times smaller and 10 times faster.
VCL is worse than MFC.
Eternal Idol Birmingham,
The choice of development tool was yours :grin:. You opted for fast development instead of of having a fast program had it been written with asm. I think you knew what you were getting yourself into. :grin:
The choice of development tool was yours :grin:. You opted for fast development instead of of having a fast program had it been written with asm. I think you knew what you were getting yourself into. :grin:
Eternal Idol Birmingham,
The choice of development tool was yours :grin:. You opted for fast development instead of of having a fast program had it been written with asm. I think you knew what you were getting yourself into. :grin:
I knew, but I'm not the boss... I'm must use the development tool that the boss told me, not the one that I want, I can suggest to him that it would be better to use plain C or asm and I did it,
I can't go any further.