Too bad it is only supported on Win 2000 +.
Leaves a lot of folks out.
Don't believe everything you read.
VS.Net will work on Win98.
Posted on 2004-04-19 21:53:19 by bitRAKE

Don't believe everything you read.
VS.Net will work on Win98.


So you have actually tested it on Win 98.

Why would Microsoft say it isn't supported.
Posted on 2004-04-20 01:01:43 by skywalker

Why would Microsoft say it isn't supported.

Perhaps they mean as in "use at own risk, we're not going to answer questions about developing on this no longer supported windows version"? :)
Posted on 2004-04-20 01:05:58 by f0dder

So you have actually tested it on Win 98.

Why would Microsoft say it isn't supported.
No, I haven't tried it, but someone has to to really know. I doubt MS is investing resources to test it on Win98, and probably made getting it working on Win98 harder to ensure development teams move to Win2K+. It is a well know fact that software programmers write to the machine they are on. Which results in pressure for users to upgrade.
Posted on 2004-04-20 01:46:52 by bitRAKE
f0dder,

Many thanks for the link:alright:
Posted on 2004-04-20 13:49:54 by Vortex
You really have scali to thank for it, it was he who passed the link onto me.
Posted on 2004-04-20 13:52:37 by f0dder
This is kinda weird to me, why does company like microsoft make free compiler like this, do they scared to the opensource community ??? I mean of GNU project. Anyway this is great for folk like us. I don't care too much if this is a marketing step to fight against "the previous opensource community".
Posted on 2004-04-22 07:19:38 by Pinczakko



Crash the operating system, requiring a reboot. You can do this from ring3 (ie, usermode) code easily on 9x, it doesn't take much more than using a bad pointer by accident. It's also easy to do from small API problems - especially GDI is *very* fragile on 9x, and you can get some nasty bluescreens easily.

I think you have just had a lot of bad luck. 80% of my rare BSOD are from conflicts with programs and/or hardware related and not my programming.

I'm happy for you :) - it's a pretty fragile filesystem. It is *NOT* fun when your root directory becomes corrupted and you just have a bunch of very garbled filenames >_<. NTFS is quite a bit safer - it's journalled,

You are the first I've known that has the root directory garbled and I've talked to a lot of people and read
many programming newsgroups.


My root directory became garbled when I was using FAT, I never reported it because I fixed it but I was about to release hold of my bladder once I look at that garbled mess.
Posted on 2004-04-22 19:19:11 by x86asm



My root directory became garbled when I was using FAT, I never reported it because I fixed it but I was about to release hold of my bladder once I look at that garbled mess.


I ain't buying that FAT story.

Now come on and be honest. You had too many brewskis and you turned off your computer while it was doing
a defrag. :-)


Dr. Andy
Posted on 2004-04-22 21:14:06 by skywalker
with this stuff can i write things that use the win32 api in C?
(gui, file functions,, etc)
(i mean i guess i can but i need includes libs etc...)

what do i need to download more ? they talk of platform sdk in the readme but would you have a link please? dont have the right to install it where i am(its a .exe) but i need to download it...

can i compile directx apps too? where on he... on microsoft.com :) can i find whats needed to turn this toolkit into an independant full feaured win app compiler?

(well still no IDE okay...)
Posted on 2004-05-03 13:53:05 by HeLLoWorld
You should get the PlatformSDK to have the win32 help and includes+libraries. For DirectX programming, you should download the DirectX SDK, which includes... tada... help and inludes+libraries :).

Both of the SDKs also have a lot of samples etc.

With just the toolkit, you can do full ANSI C/ISO C++ applications. Of course PSDK and DXSDK wasn't included, since they're pretty big :)

I think there's a direct link to downloads for PlatformSDK somewhere on this board, search and stuff :)
Posted on 2004-05-03 14:48:59 by f0dder
Posted on 2004-05-03 15:08:48 by Thomas
Hehe, how ms enforce the use of his apps, If you follow the normal way, this is msdn->downloads->by topic-> plataform sdk

If you are using other than IE, you will need install IE or go back, and stop for this time using your browser of your choice:

Welcome to SDK Update
The Microsoft? Platform SDK site requires Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.0 or later. You can download the latest Internet Explorer for free.

In addition, Microsoft ActiveX? controls are used to install components on your computer. If you are not running Microsoft Windows? or an operating system that is compatible with ActiveX controls, you cannot install the SDK using SDK Update.


Also I supose that this browser (Mozilla) can install active controls, or not? I guess yes it can.

But ok ok, I have IE, then I should use it, and yes, also they inforce the use of his installer, and dont let me use my control dowloader of my choice, that let me resume if I whant.


By the way, I like more the way that you can download the sdk for direct x, I can with the apps of my choice. ;)


Have a nice day or night.
Posted on 2004-05-12 11:29:41 by rea
OMFG! I NEED WINDOWS TO DOWNLOAD THE PLATFORMSDK! EVIL EVIL EVIL M$!!!!! OMFG!

... http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/psdk-full.htm
Posted on 2004-05-12 11:37:36 by f0dder
hgb, yeah it is almost like we need a separate computer to differentiate ourselves from the MS way. When a mountain moves the trees have no choice.
Posted on 2004-05-12 11:38:27 by bitRAKE
thank you very much!

yes i use mozilla at scool and i didnt understand why it didnt work... "click on the links on the right, huh?" :) no links...

i ve had a hard time finding a place that got the links.

(and now i try with IE and it works ... dull
Posted on 2004-05-12 13:42:36 by HeLLoWorld