I was wondering if you guys are willing to start producing more and more new masm32 tutorials, I'm also making a request that someone make a Tutorial for using Masm32 and a debugger (i.e. Hackers View, Win32Dasm, SoftICE) because I am having mucho trouble debugging my asm projects. Thanks
Posted on 2002-08-12 00:15:43 by win32n00b
Isn't enough with the tutorials floating in the Web?
Posted on 2002-08-12 00:20:17 by CodeLover
most tutorials on the web are in hard to read formats or are just vary vauge/incomplete on most things. I even find the Intel 80386 Programmer's Reference Manual somewhat vauge/incomplete in a manner of ways :\
Posted on 2002-08-12 00:25:58 by win32n00b
I dont think so. You have Iczelion tutorials and other very good tutorials floating around. Also in this message board you may find a great source of information. But if you don't want to make the effort, not even the best tutorial can make you a good programmer.
Posted on 2002-08-12 00:31:40 by CodeLover
Heh good point, I have made the effort, and I have found many good tutorials on my own! Im just requesting more tutorials be made and posted on www.win32asm.cjb.net! It makes finding them much easier on me :]
Posted on 2002-08-12 00:42:56 by win32n00b
If you've made the effort, then make your own tutorial. :cool:
Posted on 2002-08-12 00:44:29 by CodeLover

...I'm also making a request that someone make a Tutorial for using Masm32 and a debugger (i.e. Hackers View, Win32Dasm, SoftICE) because I am ....

JFYI: http://www.asmcommunity.net/board/index.php?topic=6768
Posted on 2002-08-12 00:51:27 by bazik
Well, there is some good tutorials all around... http://www.win32asm.cjb.net, http://www.madwizard.org/
This messageboard may also help you if you have a ("lame" or not) question about win32asm programming...

Asd for the debugger, OllyDBG is a sure bet and used by many programming veterans of this board and is by far easier than SoftIce : try googling for it.
Posted on 2002-08-12 01:00:02 by JCP
OK, lets come to an agreement. bazik does not want to talk about SoftIce, while Readiosys supports it. What the heck is going on here?
Posted on 2002-08-12 01:02:39 by CodeLover
Nah, he supports OllyDBG :)
Posted on 2002-08-12 02:10:36 by bazik
Yup! :tongue:
Posted on 2002-08-12 02:34:57 by JCP
Posted on 2002-08-12 03:54:23 by CodeLover
pfft... yeah ask the numega support to write a softice tutorial for you, huh?
Posted on 2002-08-12 04:08:36 by mob

pfft... yeah ask the numega support to write a softice tutorial for you, huh?

If you buy it, it comes with documentation. Plus you are able to ask the Support :)

But in fact, this posting means that this board here is _not_ the right place for ask SICE releated questions. It's just to protect this board, not a personal opinion.
Posted on 2002-08-12 04:12:12 by bazik

From looking at your question, I would guess that you are coming into asm from the wrong direction, knowing something about cracking is not enough to learn this stuff, what you need is stuff like the Intel manuals, WIN32.HLP or the later CHM format help files and then enough time to do some work with the existing stuff that is around.

You need to learn BOTH windows API coding asd assembler coding so I would suggest that you change the base that you using from cracking style tools to programming style tools and you will start to get some results.


Posted on 2002-08-12 05:13:58 by hutch--
hutch i already have the tools you listed for programming style and yes i have been practicing using the win32 api etc.. etc.. and I just need a good debugger, although someday i might use it for cracking, but as of right now I have no intentions. btw I think im gonna try that OllyDBG see if its any easier to use than Win32Dasm (btw I don't own SoftICE i was just using it as an example)
Posted on 2002-08-12 14:20:28 by win32n00b
I have to thank whoever recommended OllyDBG as it is the easiest thing I have ever used :) Thanks a bunch
Posted on 2002-08-12 14:32:21 by win32n00b
No big deal...
It is the Olly's author you have to thank. :)
Posted on 2002-08-12 15:03:24 by JCP
Hey, maybe we can get bazik to write a tutorial on how to search ;)

Posted on 2002-08-12 15:23:16 by chorus